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New Crucial Memory 64 GB SODIMM modules: Mini PCs may have 128GB capacity finally!

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Brandon Lee
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This is definitely great news for homelabbers. One of the things that has definitely been a drawback with migrating to mini PCs is the fact that we only have access to a max of 48 GB memory modules since mini PCs use SODIMM memory.ย 

However, there couldn't be better news coming out of a news release from Crucial here: Crucial Broadens Memory and Storage Portfolio to Deliver:

Note the following quote from the PR release:

Crucial DDR5 UDIMM/SODIMM:ย Crucial is now offering its Crucial Classic DDR5 Memory in a 64GB density at the 5600 MT/s speed grade, across both UDIMM and SODIMM form factors. Crucialยฎ DDR5 Memory has the blazing speed and massive bandwidth needed for the next generation of multi-core CPUs, allowing users to multitask better, load, analyze, edit, and render faster, game with higher frame rates and significantly reduce system lag for heavy workloads over the previous generation.

Can you imagine what this will mean for mini PCs moving forward? One of the things I missed about my Supermicros was the 128 GB of memory I had them populated with. However, now this looks like it will be possible to boost up to 128 GB total with (2) 64 GB modules.

There is also VMware's NVMe memory tiering which I have talked about extensively this past year and have tested in the home lab. It works by allocating an NVMe drive as a slower memory tier that can be used to offload memory pages. However, there is nothing faster than REAL memory.

I do think this could be a game changer overall for the home lab community to have access to these types of memory densities. One thing I am concerned with is price though. The 48 GB modules are pretty pricey, so it will be interesting to see what the 64 GB modules go for.

Availability: straight from the PR release, "Crucialโ€™s slate of new memory offerings will be available through crucial.com, as well as through etailers, retailers and global channel partners starting February."

@t3hbeowulf @malcolm-r @jnew1213, curious what you guys think about this news? It was bound to happen, but seems like it has been a LOOOONGGG time coming.

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Too bad there's no competition in the memory market. These are going to be expensive and, yes, seems like these should have existed from the dawn of DDR5.

My MS-01 machines have 96GB in them and aren't currently in use, so not looking to upgrade.

Two GMKtec mini PCs use DDR4, so they're out too. They're not in use right now either.

Looking for something to run a node or two of Nutanix. So, depending on what I find, these DIMMs might be useful, but leaning toward using something I have laying around. Maybe an HP mini.

I'll be looking for something to house an installation of VCF 9, whenever that comes out. Again, not looking to spend a lot.

By the way, the 48GB x 2 DIMMs were on sale on Amazon a couple months back for around $200, which was about 50 percent off the $300 or so the kit usually costs. Didn't need any at the time.

Also by the way, Happy New Year!

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@jnew1213 I hope you have been doing well! Still home labbing it sounds like. Do tell me more on your plans to play around with Nutanix. Are you starting to migrate in production to Nutanix from VMware? I know they are winning lots of converts from VMware by Broadcom.

Honestly, I have had a lot of issues trying to get Nutanix to run on the mini PCs I have tried. However, I did not try to get it to run on the MS-01. Have you tried by chance? It has quite a few requirements regarding how they like to see storage configured inside the box that most mini PCs aren't able to satisfy. I was able to get it to install without a hitch on my old Supermicro Xeon-D servers.ย 

Also, I am curious if you are going after the VCF-VCP cert? It is a bummer they are requiring the cert for VMUG now. Even vExpert award is now requiring the cert.ย 

I hate I missed the deal on the 48GB modules. I would have probably picked up another kit for sure. But will keep an eye out if they come down.ย 

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Oh, yeah. Still labbing. That won't stop. I love toys!

Currently putting in a UniFi Talk VoIP/SIP system using their desk phones and Grandstream portables. This is my first outing with phones. There's a lot of polish on the system overall. My phone number gets ported from my ISP to Ubiquiti in three days and that should be the end of the project.

Also putting in a WiFi doorbell. UniFi.

And re-implementing vSphere Replication and SRM. Kind of in the middle of that.

Lastly, figuring out a failover Internet connection using my phone's hot spot and a TP-Link mobile router in Client mode. This would feed into my UDM SE as a second WAN connection. The UDM would be set to failover from my primary ISP when (not if) it goes down. Might cost me $50 or so for the bandwith that month, but no recurring charges and the router was only sixty bucks.

Curious about Nutanix here, that's all. We had some running at work until a couple of years ago, vSphere (not AHV) on Dell hardware. Expensive. So much so, we didn't renew or replace when the hardware went EoL.

I don't see us ever moving off VMware at work. We have a multi-year, multi-million dollar arrangement with them, a TAM, Service Account Manager, etc. We have weekly meetings with our VMware support organization and get, generally, great support, proactive coverage, endless announcements on new and EoL versions, etc. We can email a specialist on Aria and set up a Zoom-based working session in a day or so.

We no longer have the same level of support from Omnissa, but we get decent support on open cases from them as well.

Our implementation is HUGE, and our teams are all trained and certified senior engineers. Things are good, knock on wood. I hate seeing others being stiffed and ignored by Broadcom. Reddit is a compilation of nighmarish stories from organizations and individuals. Curse them!

I have not tried Nutanix on the MS-01. They are still loaded with ESXi 8.0U3 and I can see keeping them turned off until next summer, when it's again time to power down the PowerEdge, for reasons of economy, and move workloads to one or both Minisforum systems.

The MS-01s recently got rack mounted in a second, 9U, cabinet that I am still building-out, along with some network gear, a PoE injector for one phone, a 1U server that I built for Plex that's not running it (Maybe I should use THAT for Nutanix!!! Thank you for reminding me!), and some other stuff.

Not going after any more certs! I have personally aged-out of studying for things! I have my VCP-DCV and VCP-DTM (Desktop Management/Horizon), and those will do. We're not using VCF at work (I guess technically, we are, but only the vSphere and some Aria portions of it, all on-prem), so I have little to gain going past exploring VCF for curiosity's sake. I guess VMUG is dead to me now.

Broadcom kills everything that's good.

By the way, take a look at Skyline Health Diagnostics. It's a virtual appliance that analyses logs from vCenter and other sources against a local database. It doesn't phone home and it's free with a Broadcom account. Playing with that now too.

The download URL is hidden like it was left up to a medieval monk in an Indiana Jones movie to obscure. Contact me privately and I can provide.

I guess that's a pretty full update. Hope I've answered all your questions.

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great to see tech progressing, but i doubt these will be worth the price for me. my two MS-01 machines are doing well with 96GB, especially with vsphere DRS keeping things balanced for me across the 3 hosts.

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