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JNew1213
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It was maybe a year ago that Broadcom announced (or let slip) that they were going to concentrate their VMware business on their, I think it was, 600 largest customers. That left a lot of small and mid-size shops wondering if they have any kind of future with VMware.

Another issue for VMware users is the migration from perpetual licensing to subscription licensing. It's going to cause trouble when products that you don't expect to stop working run the clock and stop, until you update a license key or something. I guess VMUG users are used to that, but many businesses/data centers probably aren't.

CPUs... it seems Intel is stuck on the 10nm process, which they call Intel 7. (Liars!!). AMD ran away with core counts, so Intel is shoring up their side of the shop with onboard accelerators. Have you looked at a list of SKUs for some of the latest processors? You can get them with a Chinese smorgasbord of integrated add-ons.

I posted a comment on one of your last videos mentioning that I recently purchased a couple of GMKtec G3 mini PCs. They turned out to be nice little machines. I got one for $99 (bare bones, added a 32GB SODIMM and 512GB M.2) and another for under $130 via Amazon (8GB RAM, 256GB M.2). They have a single 2.5Gb Intel NIC onboard that ESXi 8 recognizes out of the box. (Oddly Windows Server 2022 doesn't recognize the NIC). They are Alder Lake N100-based, so performance is okay for everyday office tasks. They top out at 32GB RAM (single SODIMM/single channel), so not going to run a whole home data center. They draw 6 watts at idle. So, really cute machines. But back in their boxes now, until I find a use for them or gift them to someone. Are they a substitute for something 60 times more expensive? Nope.

All of the mini machines, 1 liter boxes, single board computers, etc., even the ones with a PCIe slot, like the ZimaBoard, won't power a 25Gb card or fill the bandwidth available from a 10Gb card. Most of those machines are based on older processors as well. By the time the design of the machine is done and they are manufactured, they're already a couple of generations old. The GMKtec is nearly up-to-date, with a 12 gen Intel, but the NIC is the older v-225, not v-226. And there's only one.

My goal at home was to emulate what I support at work, so there is no substitute for enterprisey, as you call it, stuff. My first Dell, the T620 was in response to my getting a job where half the data center was Dell blades. Except for the blade chassis, which I couldn't support at home, a PowerEdge is a PowerEdge, and the T620 was very very close in maintenance and operation to the M620 blades.

I noticed the split/ductless blower on the wall behind you. I would love one, but the coop board told me no. No holes through the building's outer walls. I figure I could do it anyway if I run the piping through the air conditioner sleeves already present. Someday, maybe. Leaks from the attic are no fun, but... no attic here. Though some years ago the upstairs neighbor caused a ceiling collapse in the bathroom, necessitating a complete demolish and redo.

My company has almost a thousand ESXi servers on prem. We just recently configured a permanent AWS Cloud Connector, and we have a "cloud team" now too, but there's no move imminent, and we get new orders of servers coming in from Dell every few months. Sapphire Lake now. I mentioned the power and heat issue. Cloud is way too expensive for large scale everyday use.

Regarding your post, I can see Broadcom whittling down anything that has to do with VMware that doesn't come directly from them, including their partner network. I am wondering if that might be an improvement over the way things are now. I've heard horror stories from small organizations trying to get a quote on VMware products, only to hear crickets chirping when they reach out to a reseller.

Times, they are a-changing. But that never stops. 2024 will be the start of my 40th year in IT. Not sure if I want to retire, but it sure is on my mind a lot!

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Brandon Lee
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@jnew1213 that is really good observation on the Intel side of things. I hadn't really paid close attention to the details there until you mentioned it. Intel has definitely lost a lot of ground to AMD these past couple of years in the Enterprise. It is interesting, a few years back and you probably have seen this as well, when you got quotes from big-box vendors like Dell, AMD was never mentioned, but now it seems many of the quotes I have seen give the choice of AMD or Intel and it always enters the discussions early on. I'm sure this is not what Intel wants to hear. Not sure Pat Gelsinger can get them back on track quick enough to make up the lost ground. However, I think there are a lot of enterprise folks out there that will always prefer Intel over AMD due to the years of experience with them.

I try to keep an open mind on that front, and definitely have been impressed with the little minis that I have been running and test with the Ryzen procs. The little GMKtek K10 Nucbox with the Ryze 5800U has been rock solid running 10-15 VMs in my lab since I installed ESXi. Haven't seen any issues there.

I remember your comment now on YouTube, just now putting that together. I need to get a G3 in the lab and do some testing. As you mentioned, the N100s seem to be great little power-efficient CPUs for running just a few VMs or as a container host. They will probably do most of what a hobbyist would want to do running a few self-hosted services in Docker.

You mentioned Zimaboard. I have yet to get my hands on one as of yet. But it is on my list of gear to try. I'm wondering about the Zimaboard NAS boxes I have been seeing the kickstarters for and how viable some of these devices will be for home lab use. You may have seen my post on the Aoostar with the 5800U proc: https://www.virtualizationhowto.com/community/home-lab-forum/aoostar-nas-with-ryzen-5800u-6-nvme-6-hdd-and-10-gig-network-home-server. I think we will see this space get more active in 2024 and beyond. Makes me wonder if devices like this will be good platforms, surprised this one has 10 gig and NVMe. However, as others mention, performance is in question due to the older components.

Wow you have me beat with 40 in IT. I am working on 25+ myself, but I imagine you have seen all types of changes in your career and probably more to come. Do you have plans of retiring soon or just taking it year by year?

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The retirement thing... This spring will have me in my current job for five years. That's two years longer than any prior job in my career, most of which were consulting assignments. I have a pension coming, with decent healthcare and other benefits. At the end of a career this is what you want. I got lucky.

There's no way I can afford to retire any time soon so, yes, taking the years as they come. If retirement ever happens, pension income and Social Security, with maybe some consulting on the side, have to make that possible. I was never a "saver." There's "rainy day" money, but not "take care of me" money. On the other hand, have you seen my toys?!

When I started my career in 1984 it was mainframe COBOL and Wang VS. There were green-screen terminals (with ashtrays next to them), line printers, 8 inch floppies, and a tape drive. There wasn't a PC for another year or two and that arrived in another department. Things have sure changed. Odd thing, I have mainframe on my resume, just to provide a background on my career and experience, and I still get the occasional job offer for something that I haven't touched in almost four decades. I wish recruiters would actually READ resumes!

At work, we're Intel only. I don't remember AMD at any job I've worked, but it's possible I missed it or have forgotten about it. Dell sent us a couple of AMD PowerEdge servers some time back to try out. They're running at idle, if they're running at all. I have never seen them in any spreadsheet, inventory, or monitoring system. I am Intel-only here too. I just don't care for AMD. I think my last AMD experience was an Opteron server that I built, way, way back. To anyone who asks, I just say that vMotion doesn't work across processor families and leave it at that.

The ZimaCube looks interesting. It's an expensive device though, and only six drive bays. I have told myself this once in the past and I violated my own statement twice, the last time a few months ago, but... NOTHING BUT SYNOLOGY going forward.

Robby at NASCompares built a low-end NAS into a Jonsbo case, and it looked like fun. What the heck? I needed separate storage for... err... Linux ISOs, so I got the parts, mostly from Amazon, nothing from AliExpress, and built the thing. Five 18TB refurb drives from ServerPartDeals.com (recommended!). I didn't go so cheap with motherboard and processor though. ASRock MB for 8th and 9th Gen Intel with a used Core i3 8100 from eBay. 64GB RAM and a 1TB M.2 for... I don't know what. Also a 2.5" SATA SSD for whatever OS I got to work on the thing. I put a 10G card in the one slot that it has.

TrueNAS, OpenMediaVault, Ubuntu Server. No luck with any of them. TrueNAS refused to allow the machine to be domain-added. Some time issue that even iX Systems couldn't figure out. OMV? Whoa. You need a plug-in to find plug-ins for that. Who designed such a thing? Ubuntu? Even with Cockpit and Webmin installed, I couldn't get it to do what I wanted, which is what Synology does out of the box: mdadm RAID with the BTRFS file system on top.

I ended up going with a release candidate of TrueNAS. Still working through various issues with SMB when it's domain-joined and with NFS, but it mostly works, at least for backup. Running ZFS. The thing cost me about $1600 with the drives. A Synology wouldn't have been much more.

The Aoostar has an interesting form factor. I believe there's at least one other vendor using the same thing. But only two drives and they seem crammed in there with a too-small (?) fan at the bottom. I think everyone wishes that Synology would license DiskStation Manager for use on cheap hardware. We'd all have cheap 8, 12, or 16 bay NASes with a great OS.

Great discussion! Most enjoyable.

Have a very happy holiday, Brandon.

 

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